...then someone asks you to play something...

[Sans Script Myth]

Yea I would like to get some vocal lessons as soon as I get the time and money.

The only way to get better at it is to do it.

Yea but I want to get better faster. Besides practicing isn't going to help if I don't do it right. I definite need some help in terms of technique and breathing.

[Engel]

Yea I would like to get some vocal lessons as soon as I get the time and money.

The only way to get better at it is to do it.

Yea but I want to get better faster. Besides practicing isn't going to help if I don't do it right. I definite need some help in terms of technique and breathing.

It's not opera, it's rock and roll.  I dont see a reason to take lessons unless you want to sing queen.  Look up some stats about great singers and how many took vocal lessons and how many havent.  For me, the stage fright was the hardest part to get over.  Nobody can teach you confidence and that is the most important part of singing in my opinion.

[Twaddlefish]

Yea I would like to get some vocal lessons as soon as I get the time and money.

The only way to get better at it is to do it.

Yea but I want to get better faster. Besides practicing isn't going to help if I don't do it right. I definite need some help in terms of technique and breathing.

It's not opera, it's rock and roll.  I dont see a reason to take lessons unless you want to sing queen.  Look up some stats about great singers and how many took vocal lessons and how many havent.  For me, the stage fright was the hardest part to get over.  Nobody can teach you confidence and that is the most important part of singing in my opinion.

Are you !#@!ing serious?  You need to learn to use your vocal chords properly so you don't blow your voice out.  This goes for any genre of music including extreme metal.

For once, I agree with you Ozz. If you want to get better at singing properly, get lessons. I don't, and my voice is getting better, but my technique is dire, and often have to stop after about half an hour of full on singing i.e. to anything other than acoustic stuff.

I can play a few Bon Jovi tunes..being able to play the intro to 'Wanted Dead Or Alive', and then singing/playing the whole song goes down pretty well. Bon Jovi is always a sure fire way of getting people going...also, Paranoid works well on acoustic if you make it funny i.e. forget the words and !#@! up the solo with a bar full of people.

Wild Thing on acoustic > all as a final song in an acoustic bar set...gets everyone singing!

[Jerusalem]

http://www.getsigned.com/lessons.html

That helped my singing. Plus just recording yourself and properly listening to what you're doing really helps.

[Valentin Zukovsky]

Yea I would like to get some vocal lessons as soon as I get the time and money.

The only way to get better at it is to do it.

Yea but I want to get better faster. Besides practicing isn't going to help if I don't do it right. I definite need some help in terms of technique and breathing.

It's not opera, it's rock and roll.  I dont see a reason to take lessons unless you want to sing queen.  Look up some stats about great singers and how many took vocal lessons and how many havent.  For me, the stage fright was the hardest part to get over.  Nobody can teach you confidence and that is the most important part of singing in my opinion.

Maybe if you don't plan on making a career out of singing you'd be fine, but why would you want to limit yourself like that? I mean, of course you run the risk of ruining your voice if you aren't utilizing your vocal chords properly, but you've gotta treat your voice just like another instrument.

[Sans Script Myth]

Yea I took some lessons for guitar and I'm much better off than most. I'm sure there are those who are better than me, and took less time to do it, without any outside help. However, I know myself well enough to know that lessons will help me get better instead of hindering me.

Oh and maybe I want to sing opera. That's right. !#@!ing Don Giovanni, son.

[Engel]

Yea I would like to get some vocal lessons as soon as I get the time and money.

The only way to get better at it is to do it.

Yea but I want to get better faster. Besides practicing isn't going to help if I don't do it right. I definite need some help in terms of technique and breathing.

It's not opera, it's rock and roll.  I dont see a reason to take lessons unless you want to sing queen.  Look up some stats about great singers and how many took vocal lessons and how many havent.  For me, the stage fright was the hardest part to get over.  Nobody can teach you confidence and that is the most important part of singing in my opinion.

Are you !#@!ing serious?  You need to learn to use your vocal chords properly so you don't blow your voice out.  This goes for any genre of music including extreme metal.

Well while all of you wait and save up money for vocal lessons that you will probably never take, I'll keep on singing without lessons.

[Engel]

Yea I would like to get some vocal lessons as soon as I get the time and money.

The only way to get better at it is to do it.

Yea but I want to get better faster. Besides practicing isn't going to help if I don't do it right. I definite need some help in terms of technique and breathing.

It's not opera, it's rock and roll.  I dont see a reason to take lessons unless you want to sing queen.  Look up some stats about great singers and how many took vocal lessons and how many havent.  For me, the stage fright was the hardest part to get over.  Nobody can teach you confidence and that is the most important part of singing in my opinion.

Maybe if you don't plan on making a career out of singing you'd be fine, but why would you want to limit yourself like that? I mean, of course you run the risk of ruining your voice if you aren't utilizing your vocal chords properly, but you've gotta treat your voice just like another instrument.

If I was worried about keeping my vocal chords undamaged, I wouldn't drink so much rum and moonshine (as does every rockstar).

[Jerusalem]

When I practice my death growl, I know I do it wrong.  When and if I ever do vox for a DM band, I will be purchasing voice training lessons so I don't blow my voice out in a year.

Nicklz posted a link to a radio show where a woman talked about how to growl properly a while back. She'd apparently taught Lamb Of God, among others. No idea who it was though....

If I can be bothered I'll describe it later...

[Jerusalem]

Melissa Cross

Well, there you go. See if nicklz still has the link or summat, or just do a google search...

[Engel]

Yea I would like to get some vocal lessons as soon as I get the time and money.

The only way to get better at it is to do it.

Yea but I want to get better faster. Besides practicing isn't going to help if I don't do it right. I definite need some help in terms of technique and breathing.

It's not opera, it's rock and roll.  I dont see a reason to take lessons unless you want to sing queen.  Look up some stats about great singers and how many took vocal lessons and how many havent.  For me, the stage fright was the hardest part to get over.  Nobody can teach you confidence and that is the most important part of singing in my opinion.

Are you !#@!ing serious?  You need to learn to use your vocal chords properly so you don't blow your voice out.  This goes for any genre of music including extreme metal.

Well while all of you wait and save up money for vocal lessons that you will probably never take, I'll keep on singing without lessons.

Even if you can't afford lessons, you can always find videos and other media on how to properly train your voice.  Lessons aren't necessary all the time, but proper knowledge of how to sing properly is.

When I practice my death growl, I know I do it wrong.  When and if I ever do vox for a DM band, I will be purchasing voice training lessons so I don't blow my voice out in a year.

thats the difference between you and me.  I think "growling" is dumb as !#@!.  I dont listen to any music or band that has a member dubbed "the growler".  It's not somthing I could really get into, maybe... unless I was kicking infants in the neck.  It would be alot easier to !#@! up your voice by doing that dumb shit than singing.  call me old fashioned.

[Sans Script Myth]

Well while all of you wait and save up money for vocal lessons that you will probably never take, I'll keep on singing without lessons.

No need to get defensive there, Pavarotti.

[Engel]

Well while all of you wait and save up money for vocal lessons that you will probably never take, I'll keep on singing without lessons.

No need to get defensive there, Pavarotti.

I'm not.  What you guys are saying is that it is bad to start playing guitar without taking lessons first because you could damage your wrist and develope bad technique.  It's too bad Jimi Hendrix is dead because I would be knocking down his door to correct his technique and save his injured wrist.


That stuff can happen but it's highly doubtful.

[Sans Script Myth]

Well while all of you wait and save up money for vocal lessons that you will probably never take, I'll keep on singing without lessons.

No need to get defensive there, Pavarotti.

I'm not.  What you guys are saying is that it is bad to start playing guitar without taking lessons first because you could damage your wrist and develope bad technique.  It's too bad Jimi Hendrix is dead because I would be knocking down his door to correct his technique and save his injured wrist.


That stuff can happen but it's highly doubtful.

I'm not saying it's a terrible idea to start off guitar on your own. That's what I did. However, I decided to get lessons because I could see there were advantages to learning from someone who is significantly better than I was or am now.

Maybe I sounded like I do not sing and never will sing until I get vocal lessons. Pas du tout. I do sing when I'm playing alone and have actually sung at open mics and when I feel like pissing off my roommates. I'm just not very good at it. You can't say vocal lessons won't help. Although I should try singing more on my own, but there have been times when my throat feels sore the next day. Oh and I like to growl too.

[Engel]

Well while all of you wait and save up money for vocal lessons that you will probably never take, I'll keep on singing without lessons.

No need to get defensive there, Pavarotti.

I'm not.  What you guys are saying is that it is bad to start playing guitar without taking lessons first because you could damage your wrist and develope bad technique.  It's too bad Jimi Hendrix is dead because I would be knocking down his door to correct his technique and save his injured wrist.


That stuff can happen but it's highly doubtful.

Maybe I sounded like I do not sing and never will sing until I get vocal lessons.

Sounds like an excuse.